tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post1098346195673914929..comments2023-10-28T08:31:25.462-04:00Comments on Subway Squawkers - A Yankees-Mets Rivalry Blog: Tom Verducci plays around with facts and figures in Derek Jeter articleSubway Squawkershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04156896665605326549noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-17085877229196827132010-12-02T16:55:10.305-05:002010-12-02T16:55:10.305-05:00"For the Yankees, October is at least half th..."For the Yankees, October is at least half the season. How many times did A-Rod "fall off the cliff"? Yet we still gave him more money, and he hasn't hit like a top-flight cleanup hitter should since then. Double standard, Lisa, double standard."<br /><br />Funny you should say that, given that Jeter's October numbers were awful, too, this year. If that means it's half the season, and his three-month slump is half the season, then his entire season was a failure, right?<br /><br />Besides, Jeter was a leadoff hitter whose OBP was just .311 for three months. Those are terrible numbers.<br /><br />As for your A-Rod comparison, show me any three months in A-Rod's career where he has fallen off the cliff like that. The fact is that even when he misses time due to injury, A-Rod still hits at least hits 30 homers or more, and drives in 100 or more RBI. Which is called doing his job as a cleanup hitter. He was one RBI away from tying for the league lead in RBI, even though he missed 25 games due to injury. Yet you say "he hasn't hit like a top-flight cleanup hitter should" since 2007? What games are you watching?Lisa Swanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04909220094978054349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-32214524356747731162010-12-02T14:50:05.009-05:002010-12-02T14:50:05.009-05:00Q, I missed that show. Then again, my head would h...Q, I missed that show. Then again, my head would have exploded if I had seen it!<br /><br />Symphony, I agree. And I think the media is behind the times. A fairly solid majority of fans are on the Yankees' side here. <br /><br />Steven, when the media talks about the Yankees overpaying, they never seem to mention that four-year deal for Posada!<br /><br />And Kate, I think Jeter isn't just jealous of A-Rod; he's jealous that Scott Boras came up with the clever opt-out scheme, too! Remember, A-Rod had three opt-out clauses in his original contract, ready to use whenever he had a breakout season.Subway Squawkershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04156896665605326549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-8681420967122058712010-12-02T14:48:02.386-05:002010-12-02T14:48:02.386-05:00"From June 10 to September 10, Jeter hit just..."From June 10 to September 10, Jeter hit just .232, with a .311 OBP, and an anemic .631 OPS. That isn't just a slump -- that's falling off the cliff for half the season."<br /><br />For the Yankees, October is at least half the season. How many times did A-Rod "fall off the cliff"? Yet we still gave him more money, and he hasn't hit like a top-flight cleanup hitter should since then. Double standard, Lisa, double standard.Uncle Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11618876073064128027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-45190308860174624862010-12-02T14:42:39.612-05:002010-12-02T14:42:39.612-05:00Please correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't ...Please correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't the deal on the table from the Yankees make Jeter by far the highest paid shortstop in baseball? Isn't that what he was at the end of last season? So what has changed? Why does the media continue to insult us fans by saying he should get whatever he wants, pay him, they've thrown money at lesser players before, blah, blah, blah. How come Mo could accepted a 3 year deal back 2007 few years ago,and is now working on a 2 year deal at the age of 41? How many rings would Jeter have without Mo? Talk about a player with leverage! If Derek is an icon, then Mo is an icon to the 5th power(because that's how many rings he has). Time for the Captain to get over it, man-up and get a realistic deal done,or move on. No hard feelings. Sometime a change of scenery is good for everyone.BrooklynGirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09831965686798077800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-26188910896293442362010-12-02T13:59:48.026-05:002010-12-02T13:59:48.026-05:00I love Derek Jeter and I will always defend him an...I love Derek Jeter and I will always defend him and I think the Yankees can go to $18 million but keep it at three years, with a possible option for a fourth if he proves he can still play. <br />I never realized how jealous he is of Arod....I agree with you completely about the situation being different when Arod got the monster deal.<br />Also, Jeter is not a DH where as Arod can DH for a few seasons easily.<br />The biggest mistake Jeter's camp made was to sign a 10-year deal when you consider the position he plays and the age the contract would end. If he had signed seven, even an eight year deal he would have gotten a lot more money and time.<br />Jeter needs to get real a little....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-89334334591677990702010-12-02T12:59:04.867-05:002010-12-02T12:59:04.867-05:00Lisa,
Thanks for this excellent column.
It str...Lisa,<br /><br />Thanks for this excellent column. <br /><br />It strikes me that Jeter's "good month" numbers might justify oh, I don't know, maybe $15 million a year for three years? <br /><br />To tell you the truth, I really don't care (and think it could be justified on icon grounds) if they give him $22 million for 2011; I just don't want it to be a committment for 2014-15-16, etc. That's the mistake they made with Arod and Posada.Stevenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00789016478756887730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-60820241052488341042010-12-02T12:47:59.768-05:002010-12-02T12:47:59.768-05:00I've never seen so many people, bloggers and r...I've never seen so many people, bloggers and reporters alike, embarrass themselves like they are right now in their Jeter defense. <br /><br />Its been some of the most intellectually dishonest BS I've seen in a long time.<br /><br />And if someone else used their talking points in support of any other player these same defenders would rip them apart.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-87560450287708681532010-12-02T12:15:04.334-05:002010-12-02T12:15:04.334-05:00Saw Verducci, who I do respect, on the MLB Network...Saw Verducci, who I do respect, on the MLB Network along with a few others spouting the same "Jeter is an icon so pay him a truckload more money" nonsense. They were the same ones who were speculating on Manny Ramirez possibly being in a Yankee uniform in 2011. <br /><br />It was pretty silly on "Hot Stove" last night.BklynSoxFanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17512844600688808055noreply@blogger.com