tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post661028620023416563..comments2023-10-28T08:31:25.462-04:00Comments on Subway Squawkers - A Yankees-Mets Rivalry Blog: This Squawker feels vindicated about the real Joe TorreSubway Squawkershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04156896665605326549noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-85814568025697737232009-02-01T14:09:00.000-05:002009-02-01T14:09:00.000-05:00Lisa,I honestly have to say at this point you are ...Lisa,<BR/><BR/>I honestly have to say at this point you are the best Yankee sportswriter in the world. I have been following the Yanks since I was a kid in the 70's and have read countless articles but your point of view and conviction of strength are dead on. Thank you for bringing some sense in the sometimes mad world of the Yankees.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18052901201696563862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-51804289792724348282009-01-28T17:59:00.000-05:002009-01-28T17:59:00.000-05:00Symphony, I never quite understood why after every...Symphony, I never quite understood why after every early exit from the playoffs Jeter comments were "this is not the same team."<BR/><BR/>Jeter: get over it!Alvaro Fernandez Ravelohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01859814578415945295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-81392314942287463682009-01-28T17:21:00.000-05:002009-01-28T17:21:00.000-05:00Thanks for the response Lisa. Maybe Jeter forgot t...Thanks for the response Lisa. Maybe Jeter forgot the comments he gave Wells after Boomer showed them up after they screwed up behind him. <BR/><BR/>I also have to say that Joe has opened up discussions that will lead to comments like Mike Mussina's, when he talked about Mo blowing the World Series game in 2001 and the two games in 2004 ALCS (game 4 and 5). Comments that the "inner circle guys will forever get a pass for current lousy play because of what they did ten years ago" fans and media won't like. <BR/><BR/>Everyone is quick to say the Yanks haven't won since the new guys showed up but like Moose said, Mo blew some games but its still the new guys who get the blame for no rings. <BR/><BR/>No one wants to call out Mo for his blown saves or Jeter's poor batting average as cause for the Yanks not winning. Its always the lame "haven't won since the new guys showed up" argument. <BR/><BR/>Equal distribution of responsibility. Lets practice it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-17748063644590404902009-01-28T16:56:00.000-05:002009-01-28T16:56:00.000-05:00Symphony, I think Joe had such blinders on against...Symphony, I think Joe had such blinders on against A-Rod, and for Jeter, that he considered it a personal affront that Cashman would even think Jeter would be the one at fault. The umpires, incidentally, agreed with Cashman and gave the error to Jeter. And Derek, believe it or not, was overheard complaining to the official scorer after the game to get the error given to A-Rod!<BR/><BR/>It was not, to put it mildly, one of Jeter's better moments as a Yankee (he also glared at A-Rod after the play). But it didn't become a huge story because the <BR/>Yanks had the five-game Red Sox sweep after this.<BR/><BR/>To put the popup thing in perspective, this was the summer of 2006, at a time when A-Rod was getting constantly badgered by the fans, and when he was doing very poorly defensively. The whole thing was really bad form on Jeter's part, and I thought it was probably Derek's worst moment as captain.Lisa Swanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04909220094978054349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-11199744098923997642009-01-28T16:01:00.000-05:002009-01-28T16:01:00.000-05:00Amen!Amen!Alvaro Fernandez Ravelohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01859814578415945295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-80257100410173447452009-01-28T14:52:00.000-05:002009-01-28T14:52:00.000-05:00While I didn't always agree with Torre's managing ...While I didn't always agree with Torre's managing - from the bullpen to the bugs - I always liked him and, more importantly, I thought the players liked him. I'll be very interested to see what he has to say on Larry King on Friday night. No softball questions, Larry!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-79060159333525132712009-01-28T14:24:00.000-05:002009-01-28T14:24:00.000-05:00You're right Lisa. Torre helped to foster the decl...You're right Lisa. Torre helped to foster the decline of the clubhouse with "his guys". Wonder if he takes any responsibility in this book. <BR/><BR/>If he doesn't its a sham. The truth means telling the truth about yourself. So let me know Lisa, if he tells the whole truth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-13159197593592350432009-01-28T14:17:00.000-05:002009-01-28T14:17:00.000-05:00I think many Joe defenders don't care because the ...I think many Joe defenders don't care because the book doesn't say much of anything about those in the inner circle (Andy, Jorge, Derek and Mo). The guys he talks about are ones that, for the most part, the fans either don't care about or despise (with the exception of Wells). It was calculated. <BR/><BR/>I'm trying to figure out the purpose of him writing that Cashman thought it was Jeter's fault that the ball fell between Jeter and A-Rod in a game in 2006. Maybe that is one where I'll wait for context. Was it because it cost them a game? Did that game start a losing streak or something?<BR/><BR/>So what? Cashman thought Jeter made a mistake. He's been known to make a mistake or two in the field. <BR/><BR/>The stuff about Kevin Brown having emotional problems and demons? I listened to Boomer Esiason try to say it was baseball (demons). I'm curious if its that, but I don't think that's what Torre is talking about. <BR/><BR/>I think some things are better left unsaid unless its by the person. Alex's father abandonment issues should have been off limits too.<BR/><BR/>I don't recall anyone writing about Joe Torre's demons and father abandonment issues.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-35011494894876022412009-01-28T10:13:00.000-05:002009-01-28T10:13:00.000-05:00Lisa, I, like you was never a big Joe Torre fan. E...Lisa, I, like you was never a big Joe Torre fan. Early years had the talented, motivated players to win--not all superstars but good players with the "desire" to win. Terrible in managing the pitching staff, but sounded good when addressing the media. Once called clueless Joe and truely now can be called classless Joe! I am sure every manager in baseball could write a "tell all" book about their experiences but when it has to do with the Yankees, you know it is going to sell and be a money maker for Torre. Cost of living in LA must be higher than NY.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com