tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post6822104421264185777..comments2023-10-28T08:31:25.462-04:00Comments on Subway Squawkers - A Yankees-Mets Rivalry Blog: Time for Yankee captain Derek Jeter to stand up for his teammates regarding 'The Yankee Years'Subway Squawkershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04156896665605326549noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-15858014646121075902009-02-01T15:08:00.000-05:002009-02-01T15:08:00.000-05:00D, I had a similar experience with Derek Jeter. Ba...D, I had a similar experience with Derek Jeter. Back in December 1997 I was in the Dominican Republic's airport waiting for a flight back to Guatemala stopping at Panama. Jeter came into my gate, I asked "Are you Derek Jeter?" and his entourage laughed. They said "See, there is nowhere you can hide." Obviously, he went to a gate which wasn't for his flight because he didn't wanted to be harassed. He made an awful face and did signed an autograph, but it isn't a joyful memory for me.<BR/><BR/>However, someone in a the right field bleachers in 2007 told he was a great guy, that she had a positive experience and I just dismissed my memory as a bad day for Jeter, just as anyone can have.<BR/><BR/>But I do agree with almost everything you say about him.Alvaro Fernandez Ravelohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01859814578415945295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-39085958554502732092009-02-01T15:05:00.000-05:002009-02-01T15:05:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Alvaro Fernandez Ravelohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01859814578415945295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-34120981405948339792009-02-01T15:02:00.000-05:002009-02-01T15:02:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Alvaro Fernandez Ravelohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01859814578415945295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-87288783358912932632009-02-01T14:26:00.000-05:002009-02-01T14:26:00.000-05:00I think Jeter is a spoiled little child who harbor...I think Jeter is a spoiled little child who harbors animosity towards anyone who slights him in any way. I think he is a lousy captain, he is not vocal, has no diplomacy and is riding the coattails of 96-2000 teams accomplishments. <BR/><BR/>I pray the Yanks are wise enough to let him go after his contract runs out next year. Please tell me who in their right mind thinks he should have been the 2nd highest paid player in MLB? A singles hitter who is constantly rated as the worst full time defensive player.<BR/><BR/>I'll never forget after Yanks won the World Series in 98 I was at China Club in NYC and Jeter had a table near us. As a lifelong Yankee fan I said to him great season. His response was similar to a rapper thug just nodding his head and give me a yo yo wassup. On the other hand I saw Chuck Knoblauch at another club a year later and I said hello. He introduced himself, shook my hand and asked me how our night was. Basically a complete gentleman versus Jeter the overrated child thug.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18052901201696563862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-90665118144573014572009-01-31T18:31:00.000-05:002009-01-31T18:31:00.000-05:00Guy who never gets booed? When Jeter got off to a ...Guy who never gets booed? When Jeter got off to a bad start a few years ago, the fans booed him. <BR/><BR/>"I don’t blame them,” Jeter said. “If I was a fan I would boo me too.”Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-80108500085119567522009-01-30T02:05:00.000-05:002009-01-30T02:05:00.000-05:00I love the silent leadership comments. You can on...I love the silent leadership comments. You can only assume that is happening. I'd like to see it happening.<BR/><BR/>I'll take the leader who tells 20,000 people to get off my back rather than the one who comes up to my locker and says just ignore those 20,000 people booing you.<BR/><BR/>Easy for the guy who never gets booed to say!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-1290239597278568922009-01-29T21:32:00.000-05:002009-01-29T21:32:00.000-05:00Nah, we're just talking about what we think a capt...Nah, we're just talking about what we think a captain should do. We expect him to do exactly what you expect him to do...nothing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-23872023548262307052009-01-29T20:16:00.000-05:002009-01-29T20:16:00.000-05:00Remember the Sheffield incident when he basically ...Remember the Sheffield incident when he basically called Torre a racist? Everyone expected Jeter to stand up for Torre and say, "That's not how he is. Stuff like that never happened." But he didn't. He avoids controversy like the plague. Does that make him a bad leader? Not in my opinion - as long as he leads in the clubhouse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-36898837013544920732009-01-29T17:18:00.000-05:002009-01-29T17:18:00.000-05:00Lisa, did you hear Boomer on Kay's show. How many ...Lisa, did you hear Boomer on Kay's show. How many more comments/ interviews like this will happen?<BR/><BR/>Some of these guys that were mentioned in the book arent like A-Rod, they will speak up and not take the high road.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-31701511689568903862009-01-29T16:22:00.000-05:002009-01-29T16:22:00.000-05:00Alvaro, since you mentioned it, here's a link to J...Alvaro, since you mentioned it, here's a link to Jason Giambi talking about how much he appreciated Jeter standing up for him after the BALCO thing:<BR/><BR/>http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/25/when-giambi-needed-him-jeter-was-there/Subway Squawkershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04156896665605326549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-29417464507230266542009-01-29T16:18:00.000-05:002009-01-29T16:18:00.000-05:00Exactly who is telling you what to think? Please, ...Exactly who is telling you what to think? Please, stop the silliness.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, no one is asking Jeter to respond just for the hell of it. He's supposed to be a leader. And as far as I'm concerned if you're only going to be a silent, lead by example leader you don't need the official title. Just got out there and do your job.<BR/><BR/>Managers aren't silent leaders. Why? Because speaking up goes with the position. But I guess in Yankeeland having an official leadership position doesn't require one to step up in speak unless shutting down a stadium. <BR/><BR/>Uncle Mike, Jeter's "results" have nothing to do with this situation. So, so very irrelevant. And its not about A-Rod and people getting off his back. Whether its true, irrelevant, he doesn't produce etc is so not the point of why some of us don't like this. <BR/><BR/>The hypocrisy and double standards is the issue. The first time someone you guys didn't like reported things that were said behind closed doors about someone you did like you'd have a fit. <BR/><BR/>Just like some people are trying to get upset with what Moose said about Mariano. <BR/><BR/>The hard truth is always okay, right up until its said about us as an individual or someone we like. Example: getting upset over something as small as thinking Jeter should step up and be a captain. <BR/><BR/>Is Joe Torre Judas? No, not to me. But wrong is wrong, regardless of who does it. <BR/><BR/>Its not difficult.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-49850094464615237642009-01-29T14:50:00.000-05:002009-01-29T14:50:00.000-05:00As I said ...the only one who has to answer for Jo...As I said ...the only one who has to answer for Joe's book is JOE...<BR/><BR/>If someone wants to add their opinions it's there prerogative but it's not a requirement no matter who they are...<BR/><BR/>It's the fans ..who basically have no clue to the reality of a situation except what they read by this "source" or that "source"...that want to mouth off all the time. <BR/><BR/>I ordered the book...I'm going to read it and then I'll form my own opinions and not what the masses tell me I'm suppose to believe. I do have a problem with Joe bringing out the player tales especially if <BR/>they were confidential but I'll wait to jump on the bashing bandwagon till then. <BR/><BR/>15 days till ST ...Go Yankees 2009 !!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-8097970663770217192009-01-29T14:11:00.000-05:002009-01-29T14:11:00.000-05:00Meh, I much like Jeter am tired of the same Jeter ...Meh, I much like Jeter am tired of the same Jeter vs A-Rod questions/debates year after year. The fact of the matter is that Jeter isn't going to say anything about Torre's book, and he isn't going to say anything about A-Rod. He's going to more or less keep quiet as he always does, give non-descript answers as he always does, and wait for the whole thing to die down as it always does. It's only 14 days till pitchers and catchers. And as someone who is extremely tired of winter, that's something to get excited about.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-37846307438546498632009-01-29T14:04:00.000-05:002009-01-29T14:04:00.000-05:00Why should Jeter take a stand? Because Joe betray...Why should Jeter take a stand? Because Joe betrayed some confidences about Derek's teammates. And said they were selfish. Why shouldn't we expect the captain to stand up for his guys? <BR/><BR/>I mean, really, where are Jeter's loyalties - to the Yankees, or to Torre? He doesn't get to *not* take a stand here. <BR/><BR/>For all of Torre's finger-pointing in the book about the current Yankees being not the same team, who has tried to make this team come together? Who has tried to be a real leader? It sure wasn't Torre, or Jeter. <BR/><BR/>The only one in recent years that tried to lead is Johnny Damon, and what did he get for his trouble? The "old guard" guys gossiping like washerwomen about him to Daddy Torre, and one player saying to get rid of Damon because players couldn't stand him. I guess Damon is just one of those selfish players Joe talked about who didn't know what it took to win championships. Oh, wait.<BR/><BR/>Damon had the best line, I thought, about the whole thing. The author of the controversial book "Idiot" said, "Unfortunately, when books come out, no good comes of it," he said. Heh!Subway Squawkershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04156896665605326549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-87826044871399008262009-01-29T13:59:00.000-05:002009-01-29T13:59:00.000-05:00Jeter doesn't have to say a word. He's got result...Jeter doesn't have to say a word. He's got results that speak for themselves.<BR/><BR/>The same cannot be said for Rodriguez. But he CAN'T say a word, because anything he said will be twisted into "A-Rod's whining again" -- even if, wonder of wonder, miracle of miracles, it actually isn't whining.<BR/><BR/>The only thing A-Rod can do to silence his critics -- including me -- is to win the whole thing. Then -- and only then -- will what Joe Torre said about him no longer matter.Uncle Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11618876073064128027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-51146086645742964522009-01-29T13:53:00.000-05:002009-01-29T13:53:00.000-05:00I love Jeter, but in my opinion he never should ha...I love Jeter, but in my opinion he never should have been made Yankee captain. He doesn't have the makeup for it.<BR/><BR/>Posada does.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-43630823302030963022009-01-29T13:02:00.000-05:002009-01-29T13:02:00.000-05:00And I'm pretty sure Lisa has a LOT of examples in ...And I'm pretty sure Lisa has a LOT of examples in which Jeter has defended some one but not stepped to the plate A-Rod, basically.<BR/><BR/>Besides, when referring to the "old guard" guess who is that?Alvaro Fernandez Ravelohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01859814578415945295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-44003214820654543722009-01-29T12:50:00.000-05:002009-01-29T12:50:00.000-05:00Irene ..well said. People who have never been in ...Irene ..well said. People who have never been in the clubhouse have no clue what Jeter said or what he didn't say and I find it comical for those who say he isn't a good leader. He's actually the smartest in the bunch for keeping his opinions to himself. Quiet leadership doesn't mean it's not good leadership. The best leadership is by example not by talk.<BR/><BR/>Jeter has no explaining to do ..if anyone does ..that would be Joe since his name is on the book. <BR/><BR/><BR/>Go Yankees 2009 !!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-61025641917833866372009-01-29T12:45:00.000-05:002009-01-29T12:45:00.000-05:00Because he's the captiain Irene. With certain posi...Because he's the captiain Irene. With certain positions come certain responsibilities. How can a captain NOT be expected to receive questions on this? <BR/><BR/>I agree, "captain" is nothing more than an honorary title for Jeter. If you lead by example there is no need to have the official title, no?<BR/><BR/>Damon, Wells, Sheffield, Cashman, Brown, A-Rod, Steinbrenners, etc didn't write the book either. Think they aren't going to get questions?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-53974591336051355292009-01-29T12:32:00.001-05:002009-01-29T12:32:00.001-05:00Why obsess over what Jeter says about the book? He...Why obsess over what Jeter says about the book? He didn't write it, so why should he explain it? I respect Jeter's ability to refrain from the bashing and trashing of his teammates--that's the mark of a true leader.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-30372593534214096452009-01-29T12:32:00.000-05:002009-01-29T12:32:00.000-05:00Why obsess over what Jeter says about the book? He...Why obsess over what Jeter says about the book? He didn't write it, so why should he explain it? I respect Jeter's ability to refrain from the bashing and trashing of his teammates--that's the mark of a true leader.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-20341256918672660432009-01-29T12:22:00.000-05:002009-01-29T12:22:00.000-05:00Greg, it's not a flaw, Jeter is just not up to the...Greg, it's not a flaw, Jeter is just not up to the task.<BR/><BR/>I can imagine Dodger players CRYING now to Ned Coletti "Let's get rid of him. Guys can't stand him."<BR/><BR/>And how about drilling some tough questions to Larry Bowa and Don Mattingly who so faitfully followed Torre??Alvaro Fernandez Ravelohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01859814578415945295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-22018436814579219072009-01-29T11:53:00.000-05:002009-01-29T11:53:00.000-05:00This is Jeter's major flaw as a captain. He can le...This is Jeter's major flaw as a captain. He can lead on the field, but he's so far been unable to lead off of it. <BR/><BR/>He let A-Rod hang out to dry when he was being booed at The Stadium every night. Now he's doing it again.Greg Cohenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05791755159200547245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-51219020276351444732009-01-29T11:43:00.000-05:002009-01-29T11:43:00.000-05:00He's not going to say a word. He's the captain of ...He's not going to say a word. He's the captain of the dynasty era of the late 90s, not the current Yankee team.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-87096951720719310932009-01-29T11:02:00.000-05:002009-01-29T11:02:00.000-05:00Lisa, you don't actually expect to hear Jeter say ...Lisa, you don't actually expect to hear Jeter say something that hasn't been carefully scripted for him do you? His on field comments after the last game were the only things he has said unscripted since becoming a Yankee. I have always admired Jeter's on field efforts and desire to win but his leadership skills are a different story.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com