tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post6680189969020431574..comments2023-10-28T08:31:25.462-04:00Comments on Subway Squawkers - A Yankees-Mets Rivalry Blog: Brian Cashman sez the Yankees have until July (!) to improve their rotationSubway Squawkershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04156896665605326549noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-37992291020920644092010-12-25T09:25:21.759-05:002010-12-25T09:25:21.759-05:00Section 36, my brother and I were just talking abo...Section 36, my brother and I were just talking about that 17K game. He was visiting New York at the time, and saw that game in person!<br /><br />Here's an article about the event:<br /><br />http://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/11/sports/baseball-1-hit-17-strikeouts-no-way-for-the-yankees.htmlLisa Swanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04909220094978054349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-91594545064189133782010-12-24T13:39:40.315-05:002010-12-24T13:39:40.315-05:00<< Billy Joel once said "you should nev...<< Billy Joel once said "you should never argue with a crazy mind-mind-mind-mind-mind-mind" (I think he was talking about you Mikey), so I won't add anything more to this particular thread >><br /><br />A, You haven’t added ANYTHING to this thread, and B, Billy Joel is a Yankee Fan. So is Bruce Springsteen. So is Paul Simon. Getting younger, so are Alicia Keys and Jay-Z. The biggest singer who’s a Met fan is… Liza Minelli? Not that there’s anything wrong with that.<br /><br />As for Pedro's 17-K game: If Andy Pettitte doesn't allow that home run, Pedro pitches a one-hitter with 17 Ks and LOSES. But in the most important game he ever pitched, 4 years later, he went over 100 pitches, and neither he nor his manager had a clue that he was spent. Sure, he might have won a Game 7 in 1999... but his team has to be good enough to get there first. He started 3 World Series games; in 2004, the Sox were already up 2 games to 0, so there was no pressure; in 2009, he was 0-2. Not as clutch as you think.Uncle Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11618876073064128027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-63090156688015242042010-12-22T19:37:52.537-05:002010-12-22T19:37:52.537-05:00Thanks Lisa. I'm pretty sure Pedro was pitchin...Thanks Lisa. I'm pretty sure Pedro was pitching pretty well the night he struck out 17 Yankees at the stadium.<br /><br />I hate the "over 100 pitches" flaw people give Pedro. Of course he pitched worse over 100 pitches. But, it's not like at 99 pitches he threw 97 mph on the corner, and #100 was an 85 mph meatball. He also pitched worse over 115 pitches than he did under 115. Every pitcher does. If you're pitching well, you don't throw many pitches. So, just by throwing over 100, by definition, he's not pitching as well as if he was under 100. Plus, there are more pitches under 100 (99, to be exact) than there are over 100 (20, maybe) so the number gets skewed. Chances are, if you're pulled from a game it's after giving up a hit. So, the last pitch you throw has a 1.000 BA. There's not enough quantity to bring that number back down. It's simple statistics.Section 36https://www.blogger.com/profile/18194098940017348361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-58703147108992035492010-12-22T18:11:32.197-05:002010-12-22T18:11:32.197-05:00Random Baseball Stuff, I highly doubt the Yankees ...Random Baseball Stuff, I highly doubt the Yankees would get Garza, being in the AL East. I am not saying the Rays wouldn't trade Garza within the division, but the price would surely be higher, in which case another team, like say, the Mets, would swoop in.Alex Taffethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08131836694138665345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-27193498297169982692010-12-22T14:40:28.408-05:002010-12-22T14:40:28.408-05:00I have to agree with Section 36. 1999 Pedro Martin...I have to agree with Section 36. 1999 Pedro Martinez is pretty much as good as it gets. <br /><br />And Uncle Mike, Pedro had 23 starts over 100 pitches that year, and 13 of 120 pitches or more that season.Lisa Swanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04909220094978054349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-85455816778415556722010-12-22T12:59:01.168-05:002010-12-22T12:59:01.168-05:00Billy Joel once said "you should never argue ...Billy Joel once said "you should never argue with a crazy mind-mind-mind-mind-mind-mind" (I think he was talking about you Mikey), so I won't add anything more to this particular thread, except this:<br /><br />"...laughing at the Yankees never ends well. It usually ends in October..." Usually? Wait a second here, "usually" typically infers a rather high success rate, perhaps somewhere north of 50 percent maybe? What has been the Yankers success rate? Of the 106 World Series that have been played, the Yankers have purchased 27, so that comes out to about 25%. So 25% gets a "usually" now? Is this the new math? Or are you just carrying on the "just say NO to YES" tradition of telling a lie often enough so that people start to believe it?<br /><br />And since 1961 (the expansion era), the Yankers have purchased 9 trophies, so that's 9 in 50 years, or 18%. Again, "usually"?? I don't think so.<br /><br />Oh sure, I know they have purchased more WS than any other team has won, but that still does not earn a "usually". "Occasionally" is more accurate, but not "usually".<br /><br />And laughing at the Yankers is almost as much fun as watching my team win, since that is what "usually" happens in October, about 75% of the time! The-e-e-e-e-e-e Yankers lose!!!!<br /><br />HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-27523740424167297392010-12-22T11:53:26.676-05:002010-12-22T11:53:26.676-05:00Then you're dead, S36, because we can just wai...Then you're dead, S36, because we can just wait Pedro out until he throws Pitch 100. Has there ever been a great pitcher whose weakness has been so well-known? Has there ever been a more overrated pitcher?<br /><br />Steverino, you laugh, yet you do nothing to refute that at which you laugh. (At least you're consistent.) Really, laughing at the Yankees never ends well. It usually ends in October with the laugher wondering why God hates him and loves the Yankees. I don't know the answer, but I don't mind not knowing, as long as the result comes.Uncle Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11618876073064128027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-17922886791025053652010-12-21T19:33:23.421-05:002010-12-21T19:33:23.421-05:00The Yankees are lucky that there really aren't...The Yankees are lucky that there really aren't many great teams in the AL. Their line-up probably will let them win lots of games against TB, Baltimore, and Toronto. That will be the bulk of their early schedule. So, they may stay in the WC hunt until July. I'll take the four-month head start for the division though.<br /><br />If I need to win one game because my life depends on it, I want 1999 Pedro on the mound. I don't have a second choice.Section 36https://www.blogger.com/profile/18194098940017348361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-56579882325876643312010-12-21T16:33:22.723-05:002010-12-21T16:33:22.723-05:00Careful Mikey, your Yankeritis is rearing it's...Careful Mikey, your Yankeritis is rearing it's ugly head again (see "Is losing Cliff Lee a "PR nightmare" for the Yankees?" for the full medical definition).<br /><br />Yep, CC is no Pedro. In fact, Pedro is only half the man that CC is. CC weighs roughly 300 pounds and Pedro was maybe 150 soaking wet? Depending on the exact numbers, it's roughly half!<br /><br />"...There is no reason to panic. There is no better team in the American League...."<br /><br />HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-32571321018572299962010-12-21T13:50:06.279-05:002010-12-21T13:50:06.279-05:00I wouldn't give the Red Sox the 2011 AL East t...I wouldn't give the Red Sox the 2011 AL East title just yet. However, they have upgraded bigtime this year, and look to be the favorite to win the division.Lisa Swanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04909220094978054349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-17571898026893236652010-12-21T13:46:41.325-05:002010-12-21T13:46:41.325-05:00Dale, if you think the Rays will seriously contend...Dale, if you think the Rays will seriously contend in 2011, I've got two words for you: As Jim Bouton would say, "Yeah, surrrre!" The Orioles have a better chance now.Uncle Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11618876073064128027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-75289947833988521602010-12-21T11:24:48.337-05:002010-12-21T11:24:48.337-05:00" weren't the Red Sox running away with t..." weren't the Red Sox running away with the Division in 2006 and 2009? "<br /><br />2006: 4 game lead on July 4rth<br />2009: 5 game lead on June 24rth.<br /><br />so...no.<br /><br />Besides, neither the Yanks nor the sox won the division in 2010 or 2008, so all this division title bs is premature. Desmond Jennings will make up some of Carl Crawford, and a traffic cone could replace Pena.Dale Samshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16310149588763599168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-7182362277118182412010-12-21T10:41:07.040-05:002010-12-21T10:41:07.040-05:00The Red Sox are not running away with anything. T...The Red Sox are not running away with anything. They'd be better off just running away. Their pitching issues do resemble those of a New York team. The Mets. Also, weren't the Red Sox running away with the Division in 2006 and 2009? How'd those seasons work out? They didn't even make the Playoffs in '06, and only got the Wild Card in '09 and got swept.<br /><br />Section 36 is right about one thing, though: CC Sabathia is no Pedro Martinez. CC can throw more than 100 pitches. Also, CC isn't a headhunting thug. CC is a man, on both counts. Pedro was not.<br /><br />It's time for Yankee Fans to stop acting like pre-2004 Red Sox fans. There is no reason to panic. There is no better team in the American League. The Rays? No more Carl Crawford. The Rangers? No more Cliff Lee. The Angels? We've proven we can beat them in October, and they're not as good as they've been, either. We got this.Uncle Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11618876073064128027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-79610099255875895842010-12-20T20:38:53.927-05:002010-12-20T20:38:53.927-05:00If I were a Yankees fan, I'd be hoping that Ca...If I were a Yankees fan, I'd be hoping that Cashman's comments are designed to lower the price for Matt Garza.<br /><br />I would not trust him to make a deadline deal - if he had gotten Cliff Lee this year, maybe the Yankees would have added another World Series trophy to their collection. Instead, he opted to hang onto prospects that he doesn't seem to believe in.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8624254435992330014.post-47449322655868594502010-12-20T19:29:29.870-05:002010-12-20T19:29:29.870-05:00As a Red Sox fan, I like hearing comments like tha...As a Red Sox fan, I like hearing comments like that from the Yankees GM. With the team the Sox have this year, a four-month head start should be plenty to cruise to the division title. <br /><br />Of course, I also remember the 1999 Sox team. They had a pathetic line-up, and a rotation that consisted of Pedro and four other guys even I can't remember. They ended up in the ALCS that year. So, the Yankees could follow that pattern. Unfortunatley, there was no team in 1999 like the 2010 Red Sox. Sabathia is no Pedro. And, the Sox lost that ALCS to the Yankees in '99. Those aren't exactly the best signs.Section 36https://www.blogger.com/profile/18194098940017348361noreply@blogger.com